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Kate ([personal profile] mugglechump) wrote2009-02-06 10:12 pm

Color Me Disgusted

Stimulus Plan my ass. The American people deserve better than pork spending in sheep's clothing. How many generations are going to pay for special interests and socialism in this country? This is change I not only do not believe in, it's change that makes me ill.

Fuck you very much, Congressional Democrats and wussy, weak-willed pseudo-Republicans.

In other news that makes me see red, I read this article: Doctor's License Revoked Over Botched Abortion That Led to Live Baby Being Thrown Out

First, how is an abortion at 23 weeks even legal without medical necessity? The article doesn't even mention the legality, but I was really under the impression that 12 weeks was the latest you could go without a valid medical reason. But twenty-three weeks? Seriously? What kind of fucking moron can't make up their mind until more than halfway through their pregnancy? There's 'choice' and then there's selfish, ignorant fucks who ought to be sterilized. And honestly? What fucking bullshit that the 'mother' is all distressed now. The baby would have been just as well-formed and sentient if they'd killed it in utero as it was when she gave birth to it. She's only upset because she had to face the child she'd elected to murder. It would have been easier for her if she'd only ever seen it dead. I feel no pity for her. I hope the clinic owner is charged with murder and the doctor is forever stripped of his license. People are fucking sick.

[identity profile] rainpuddle13.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
The first thing the messiah did was reverse the executive order banning late turn abortions. You can go in the day before your due date and have an abortion now. It's very gruesome.

[identity profile] mugglechump.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
James has been saying for a long time that Obama's the anti-Christ. I'm starting to believe him.

[identity profile] rainpuddle13.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
He makes Clinton look like child's play.

[identity profile] fiery-flamingo.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, Kate, wandered over from the Pleasure Pastures and saw this. Very very upsetting! :(

That's just wrong. The doctor'll probably only get 2-5yrs for it. Poor baby! :(

But actually, at 23 weeks its not a late term abortion. That's still second trimester. Florida abortion law doesn't regulate abortion until 28 weeks.

And the presidential ban that Obama reversed was over giving funding to international groups that provide info on abortion. Article here. As far as I know the Partial-birth ban is still in effect.



[identity profile] goddessvicky.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know enough about the stimulus plan to give an opinion, but I'd love to hear why you think it's a bad idea.

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As for the other thing? I am sick to my stomach and completely agree everything you’ve said. The case that has defined abortion as we know it (Roe v. Wade) essentially ruled that the state has no say when it comes to women seeking abortions during their first trimester (essentially until the 12 week mark) but leaves anything with the second and third trimester abortions up to the state. I.E. – Even if President Obama decides to overturn the ban on late abortions, according to the Supreme Court, the state you live in still has the final say. In Iowa, it depends on the institution; though I think anything third trimester is illegal. The clinic I work at only goes until 13 weeks and 6 days. Our Des Moines clinic goes the farthest, at 18 weeks. And even that depends on the doctor. We only have one doctor who will go that far, the other will only go until 16, and the doctor I work with is the one who refuses to do anything 14 weeks or above.

I suppose my personal view, and that of a lot of women I know who are pro-choice, is that “the choice” to end your pregnancy ends when said pregnancy could potentially live outside of the womb. Viability. If the fetus has a chance to survive outside of the womb, then the procedure shouldn’t be performed. When exactly this is varies, so I can’t give an answer. The fact that the woman was 23 weeks sickens me. Like you said, she had at LEAST 17 weeks (depending on when she found out about the pregnancy) to decide. Waiting that long is just sick and wrong.

I also agree with you WHOLE-HEARTEDLY that the doctor should be stripped of his license (and probably should have been done earlier) and that the clinic owner should be charged for murder. That baby took a breath of air, meaning it was a live and whole person. It had lungs that filled with air. SHE had lungs that filled with air.

This disgusts me completely. I am actually sick to my stomach about something like this happening in the society we live in today. I am about as pro-choice as you can get, but I can guarantee you that 95% of pro-choicers would agree that this is irreprehensible. I think the state of Florida needs to reexamine its laws on second and third trimester abortions, and the rules and regulations regarding the way clinics can be run should be scrutinized as well.

[identity profile] mugglechump.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole thing makes me want to vomit. I don't believe abortion should be illegal entirely, although on a personal level I find it abhorrent, but this is so far beyond the pale it's unimaginable. It's hard to imagine anyone not thinking this is wrong.

[identity profile] goddessvicky.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*Anyone* who thinks this is alright to have happened needs to seriously look at their own morals and see where they went...

[identity profile] 13oct.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Reading that article made me feel physically sick. As a woman and a mother, I can't believe how the 'mother' in question, can justify things to anyone including herself. Both the mother as well as the doctor should be arrested for murder. I mean, how can you even consider your self to a rational human being and do something like that...

That being said, I've always been pro choice. BUT in my opinion, unless it's a life threatening reason, an abortion should only be done during the first trimester. But then, that's my own take on things.

[identity profile] mugglechump.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pro-choice in the sense that I don't think all abortions should be illegal. Morally I disagree with them, but I generally think less government in our lives is better than more - to a point. This case just goes beyond the pale.

[identity profile] dragonsangel68.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
I hope the people involved burn in hell for all eternity. I just feel ill...

[identity profile] mugglechump.livejournal.com 2009-02-07 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
It really is horrific. Can we go back to the days when it was considered a good thing to teach morals?

[identity profile] baby-k21.livejournal.com 2009-02-08 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, that's...wow.

That made me ill. I agree with you 100%

Nice journal

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